Friday, December 4, 2009

Jaxscene Poll: What Does This Sign Mean?


The other day while in Downtown I talk to a parking enforcer and had a chance to discuss what this sign meant. I was wondering how many people actually know.



What does this sign mean?
As long as you have something to load or unload you can park here for up to 1 hour
Only people with loading permit or company decals on your car can park for 1 hour no one else
You can park here without a permit or decal as long as it is a brief drop off pick up situation
Other: Leave response in comments

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7 comments:

polkatronixx on December 4, 2009 at 2:35 PM said...

You need a permit to park there, but you must also be driving a commercial vehicle. You may also briefly park there to drop off or pick someone up.

JennyK on December 4, 2009 at 4:24 PM said...

FYI for the pollsters, according to the Parking Facilities and Enforcement FAQ's page:
Q. Who can use Freight Loading Zones?

A. Designated Freight Loading Zones (FLZ) are for the expeditious loading and unloading of freight. Commercial vehicles properly displaying company logos in the standardized format or individuals purchasing a FLZ permit from the Public Parking division may utilize a space for the one-hour limit as posted. Certain circumstances may arise that require someone without proper signage or documentation to park in a loading zone. If this occurs, the time must be brief as in a "dropping off or picking up" situation.

http://www.coj.net/Departments/Environmental+and+Compliance/Parking+Facilities/Frequently+Asked+Questions.htm

polkatronixx on December 4, 2009 at 4:31 PM said...

So I was right.

Michele! on December 4, 2009 at 5:53 PM said...

tom i hope this means you're going to fight that ticket.

polkatronixx on December 4, 2009 at 6:34 PM said...

From the statute:

Sec. 804.1008. Standing in freight curb loading zone.
(a) No person shall stop, stand or park a vehicle for any purpose or length of time other than a person performing in the conduct of his or her business or in the scope of his or her employment and using a vehicle which displays by affixation to the bottom of a rear window or as close as possible to the center of the vehicle an annual freight curb loading zone sticker or decal issued by the City's Parking Facilities and Enforcement Division after receipt of payment of $50, or which displays by affixation on both exterior sides of the vehicle:
(1) The name of the business or a company trademark, service mark or logo not less than four square inches in area, or
(2) Principal product or products in letters not less than two inches in height,
For the expeditious unloading and delivery or pickup and loading of materials, including but not limited to all kinds or types of materials used or useful in connection with constructing, renovating, equipping, furnishing, decorating, supplying, maintaining or operating any industrial, commercial, professional or residential facility, in a freight curb loading zone during hours when the provisions applicable to the zone are in effect. In no case shall the period for loading and unloading of materials exceed one hour and a sign stating such time period shall be posted at each freight curb loading zone. In the event that the owner of a vehicle can show reasonable proof that the vehicle for which an annual freight curb loading zone sticker or decal was issued has been damaged, destroyed, sold or otherwise transferred along with an affidavit from the owner that the sticker or decal was destroyed and is no longer usable and used, then if the same occurs at anytime during the first six months from date of issuance the owner shall be entitled to a $25 refund, but otherwise no refund shall be made.
(b) The driver of a vehicle may stop temporarily at a place marked as a freight curb loading zone for the purpose of and while actually engaged in loading or unloading passengers, when the stopping does not interfere with a motor vehicle used for the transportation of materials which is waiting to enter or is about to enter the zone.
(c) Violation of this Section shall constitute a class A offense.

In a nutshell: you can't park there unless you are operating a commercial vehicle and have paid the City $50 for a permit (and, in most cases, are displaying the permit on your vehicle). You can pull into the spot to drop someone off or pick someone up (loading and unloading passengers), but you can't park the car and leave it there.

So, basically, Tom hasn't got a prayer of getting his ticket overturned :(

jaxscene on December 4, 2009 at 8:14 PM said...

adam your so right. i'm basically fighting it cause i think they should put a sticker on the sign that says permit parking only. the average person isn't going to have access to a parking enforcement code book and what the sign really means. and clarify what dropping off and picking up means. the description you found is clear.

off subject i think in a perfect downtown a person moving in or moving heavy or expensive furniture, paintings, dj equipment should be able to get a temporary pass so they don't have to walk 2 blocks to haul this stuff in. these people loading and unloading for art walk or city events shouldn't be ticketed. most of them aren't selling anything they just do it to build the city. -tom p.

polkatronixx on December 5, 2009 at 2:58 PM said...

My bad. It appears I read the statute incorrectly. You can park there if you're driving a commercial vehicle (and loading/unloading) OR park there if you have a permit. Otherwise, it's the drop off/pick up only scenario.

Anyway, I don't see the point in trying to challenge the ticket so much as maybe working to get the signs changed. That might be a really worthwhile pursuit!

Back the f up see more homie

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