Friday, January 2, 2009

Why Feed The Bear? To Liam


Of course Jacksonville has it's drama. One of my new years resolutions for 2009 is to not put up with losing my rights and standing up for what I believe in. Liam is JaxScene contributor, and has been let into The Pearl for free for awhile now and doesn't know anything about what The Pearl is going through. He made a post last night on his myspace.

Re: LiamHappenstance

the Pearl​ wont be shut down tonig​ht if you come out to TSI inste​ad.​ Sunbe​ars are on it anywa​ys.​ Save some money​ by not losin​g your cover​ charg​e at the Pearl​.​

My question is why? Did he know someone was going to call the Fire Marshall? Lets be a community, support everyone. To this day The Pearl has never retaliated to all the calls made against their club. Someone did call The Fire Marshall again on The Pearl they came and were not shut down. False alarm again, way to make the Fire Marshall and the Fire Department come out in middle of the night when they can be somewhere else. At the least come in and do a head count before you cry wolf.

39 comments:

Anonymous said...

classic case of fucking needless riverside drama

same reason thee imperial closed
same reason the pit isn't the pit
same reason fuel is only open when they have a show

same reason fuel doesn't do well enough at any of their shows so they have to keep booking hip hop night

when every time they've had a hip hop night there have been gun shots.

we all need to be real with one another and grow together as a community

one.

Anonymous said...

haha Sunbearss suck anyway

Anonymous said...

stop ruining my good time because you can't stand it when others are happy Mr. fire marshall caller. no one likes a prude so try pulling ye olde stick out of your bunghole.

Happenstance Photograph on January 2, 2009 at 10:01 PM said...

Look all I know is that the last 2 weeks I tried to go to the Pearl it was shut down before I could get in is all. And that is frustrating. Sorry I tried to put my friend's night over. Nothing wrong with competition anyways, right. I am not petty, I just don't like having a good time ruined. Don't be mad at me, and I don't appreciate being called out like that Tom. I have always enjoyed Thursday at The Pearl why would I want to squash that? BTW the Sunbears! are one of the best things going on in this town.

flutterby3 on January 2, 2009 at 10:13 PM said...

I have to agree with ALL 3 Anonymous posts at the top...only we also lost the late and great Milkbar and the Moto Lounge (showing my age! LOL!)

jaxscene on January 2, 2009 at 10:29 PM said...

i love the sunbears, one of my favorite bands. i hate drama, i'm not trying to start it. one: i'm being vocal cause i know what's going on. i have a good idea where these calls are coming from but i'm not calling anyone out. two: we need to get behind each other. i hope i'm doing something that makes people feel they can't destroy things cause good people are not vocal people. a good time is a good time. i think everyone can share that. i support the jacksonville scene and everyone getting behind it i think will make it grow.

jaxscene on January 2, 2009 at 10:37 PM said...

@ flutterby3 i agree. i lost einstien's as well that sucks. it changed my life for the better and now it is not there for the younger generation.

flutterby3 on January 2, 2009 at 10:55 PM said...

@jaxscene my husband misses Einstein's too. He went from 14-17 and it was very important in his life as well!

First Friday was disappointing tonight. Less than half the stores were open. I don't know if it was the holidays that caused that or if people are starting to give up on it but we'll continue going to support our friend's business!

We will keep watching your site and attending events to support Jax. I love the blog and check it anytime we are looking for something to do. Look up Jaxscene, myspace the bands posted and pick a place to go. It's a great way to find new bands and we've seen some fantastic cheap shows thanks to Eclipse, TSI & Jackrabbits.

Anonymous said...

I will never go to tsi again. You don't like being called out but you can warn people not to lose their cover by going to the pearl. When the giggling is done and the bill comes due the only question that remains is how much pain have you caused. And for what. Someone needs to tell those guys that real people with clear consciences do good and good things come. Do bad and it may take a while but bad will come. It won't seem as cute.

Anonymous said...

Just a reminder - the pearl is not the ONLY bar in Jacksonville. I think the entire scene would be a lot more exciting if there were more bars - perhaps even bars that are not photographed endlessly. I would like to have options. Everyone is CONSTANTLY going to the pearl. Even a good thing gets old. Thanks for letting me add my $.05.

Anonymous said...

Competition is one thing...its another thing to stack the deck in your favor by being prank calling pricks!

And if the Sunbears are so damn good why you gotta close out the other places just to get someone to come see you?

It's all good though, Karma is gonna come around eventually...enjoy it while it lasts!

Anonymous said...

The pearl is popular so let's shut it down with taxpayer (TAX- remember that word) funded dangerous false alarms. Makes perfect sense. I plan on going there more now. I want to be there the day the fire marshall comes in and says they got the punks. I like the sunbears and with that kind of name there is no way they are involved. If they can't fill tsi without false alarms then its tsis fault. Maybe they should take credit cards clean up the place. Take more photos. its a distraction to bring subbears into this. They are a good band and should pull wherever they play.

j said...

People that run these clubs need to stop worrying so fucking much on how many people actually come out to the bar but if its even worth coming out to. I stopped going out in riverside/downtown because you see all the same people there getting wasted and trying to get laid-very few do we see any talent come through for a show and if we do no one comes out- get off your ass and create something instead of drinking your lives away!

Anonymous said...

Regional and international community.I know this is what Tom and Liam strive for for Jacksonville.The Pearl,TSI,Jaxscene,Happenstance,Shanty,all equally brilliant ideas by true individuals elevating this city where it needs to be.Hate to see everyone's hard work submerged in drama when it should be under an umbrella of international community.

"All the best things always"

Anonymous said...

haha. why did i waste my time reading this?

:doesnt care to visit this blog again:

PATCHES on January 3, 2009 at 6:37 PM said...

HI THERE! I'M IN SUNBEARS! HAHAHA! MU MY NAME IS JARED CHASE BOWSER-BEAR! LOL JK, BUT SERIOUSLY, SUNBEARS! ARE IN NO WAY AFFILIATED WITH ANY SORT OF CALL TO ANY SORT OF LAW OFFICIAL IN ANYWAY. I HAVE MY RUN-INS WITH THE LAW (see United States Of America v. Jared Chase Bowser), SO THEREFORE I TRY TO STEER CLEAR OF ANY CONTACT WITH THE PROVERBIAL "MAN". ANYWAY, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I LIVED AT THE PEARL FOR THE LAST 2 YEARS. NOW, I GO TO TSI ON THURSDAY. IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD, AND IT HURTS MY FEELINGS THAT YOU PERSONALLY ATTACKED THE CREDIBILITY OF MY BAND / DJ TROUPE! L8ER H8ER.

Anonymous said...

This is why I'm so glad I'm not part of any of this anymore. It's so nice not to have to deal with club drama, kids, or the scene. It's all the same people anyway, doing the same petty things, and playing the same crappy music that they've been playing since Einstein's. The scene hasn't changed in a decade. It's all the same players, playing games, and trying so desperately to be popular. It's sad to think that three BARS are the center of so many peoples lives.

Michele! on January 4, 2009 at 3:05 AM said...

Let me just say that Christy---THE OWNER OF THE PEARL, has done nothing but help contribute a positive image to this community, the downtown area, and SPRINGFIELD. Not only has she added another safe and much needed prosperous business to this area of town, she has also given those that work for her a decent job, the locals a safe place to party, and everyone at the garden, AN AWESOME PLACE TO GROW VEGETABLES. YES, SHE OWNS THE PROPERTY IN WHICH THE DOWNTOWN-SPRINGFIELD GARDEN USES, AND FOR FREE!!!! I don't know the details of what is going on, but it infuriates me that someone is trying to destroy such a good business and a good person. Seriously, next time some sad shit like this happens, let it be known that you are not only destroying some "competition," you are also destroying the community around it. If The Pearl didn't exist, neither would our project.

And it just so happens my roommate is a 911 dispatcher for JSO, and the horrid stories she comes home with sickens me. To waste MY TAXPAYING money on some shit like this pisses me off. While the fire department and police are off making appearances on false alarms, people are being raped, robbed, and murdered in this town. Whoever is responsible for this crap...makes me want to shoot you myself.

Anonymous said...

Michele!

Your last sentence throws all credibility out the window.

Michele! on January 4, 2009 at 4:14 AM said...

It does, and I said it out of rage, I apologize. I don't have any credibility anyway, but it doesn't make me any better of a person to use the phrase "shoot you myself." I'm just really upset that someone has the audacity to do such a thing. It saddens me that the club, the community, and the garden will all suffer if the behavior of a certain individual continues. I'm trying really hard (along with Jen McCharen and the rest of the gardeners) to keep the garden alive and start a green market in the parking lot. This obviously wouldn't happen without Christy and the existence of The Pearl.

Anonymous said...

for the record:

the pearl & tsi are both rad spots and shitty jacksonville should feel lucky to have them, as well as the other surrounding bars that are trying to grow.

on the other hand, all the kids that have to make out with the fat guy to get their picture on some website are not cool.

Anonymous said...

What the hell people eat food grown next to 1st and Main????
The ground is contaminated in that area!!!

Forget about the Pearl and the Fire Department some one call the EPA for the love of God.

jaxscene on January 4, 2009 at 9:10 AM said...

the food is grown in above ground boxes believe me that was a big consern when the garden started.

something a lot of people are not aware of is the pearl has also been recycling for the past 5 months. they recycle around 80% of all there garbage.

i also want to say is i didn't start this post to add drama i just saw things in the fire department issue getting out of hand and i was trying at least speak of it so it doesn't get to much out of hand.

i like bill/liam and i appreciate what he does. i'm glad he is part of jaxscene. and i enjoy his pictures. i consider him a friend. i just thought the myspace post was not needed. i hope he can forgive me one day. don't think the people at the pearl are not concerned with these calls. it's hard to have fun and enjoy yourself when someone is relentlessly trying to take away your job.

Anonymous said...

riverside: home to the biggest kids i know, from largo to lancaster.

the only reason i'm excited about 2009 is because once it sets in that lower gas prices now elude to a severely deflated economy later, maybe people will be more concerned with feeding themselves and their children instead of smearing places that local business owners sacrifice daily for to keep open and gossiping about who goes where.

riveride for the last 15 years has prided itself on its diversity and i love that. but i really feel that it's only when we can all come to the table and find a least common denominator and understand that we are on some basic level the same that this kinda stuff will finally stop.

Anonymous said...

@jaxscene You didn't start drama you wrote something on your site that sheds some light on a small part of a bigger issue and i think sometimes coming out and making a stand and saying things need to change can be dramatic yes but that doesnt mean you shouldn't do it.

Anonymous said...

well put

Jonathan on January 4, 2009 at 4:26 PM said...

i really don't think that anyone is actually calling the pearl in. when the pearl was first raided over the summer of 08' and i learned that their CAPACITY is set at 150 people... i was SHOCKED. the pearl has been pushing their luck, but i seems like over christmas break, their luck is running out. ANYONE can drive by the pearl on a thursday or a saturday night and CLEARLY SEE that there are FAR MORE than 150 people inside those doors. i'm pretty sure that a 1st grader can count that high, so it's also safe to say, that a police officer, or a fire marshal can do the same.

also, in regard to what LIAM stated in his myspace bulletin, i don't understand why anyone has an issue with it. the fact of the matter is... for the past TWO WEEKS the pearl was consistently shut down for capacity reasons. all of the patrons that walked through that door, LOST their cover. they'll never be reimbursed. SO, having said that, all liam was trying to say is, save your cover and bring it to tsi. and THAT WAY, because there will not be as many people pearlin' it up, the pearl wont be shut down. the pearl was be raided three times in one year and STILL won't OBEY THE LAW. so... i ask... who's actually in the wrong here?

might i add, that the eclipse was also raided on one of those nights, and because they were under capacity, they were not shut down.

we all love and support each other... i don't think that liam was doing anything spiteful or negative. we all frequent these spots around town...

i mean, it's only logical...

Anonymous said...

Wah wah wah.

Anonymous said...

"we all love and support each other"
are we all talking about the same part of jacksonville?

lol..

Jonathan on January 4, 2009 at 5:28 PM said...

well, the people involved in the original post, that is...

Anonymous said...

How do you CLEARLY see through doors driving by? I don't "think" the fire marshall would lie about why they were there. They they need to stop calling. I also find it odd that no one from tsi is coming out against all of this. If it was my club and I wasn't involved I would stop all of this much like Ryan did when he was caught sabotaging last time. They need to say its not them and they don't need people to hurt others to succeed. And do it fast. And don't hit girls. You will end up getting hit harder. Karma. Its everywhere you are going to be

PATCHES on January 5, 2009 at 10:50 AM said...

HAHA TO THAT LAST COMMENT. PRRRRT

Anonymous said...

Community? HILARIOUS. Since when was a sense of community based on who had their picture taken at a local bar?

Get a grip guys. Jacksonville needs more than a few shitty pop bands to get it's "scene" and sense of "community" back together. Communities aren't formed schmoozing over your can of Sparks.

PATCHES on January 5, 2009 at 11:40 AM said...

WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT COMMUNITY AND WHY IS IT IN QUOTES AS IF SOMEONE DID? HA, AND SECONDLY, WHO SAID THAT GETTING YOUR PICTURE TAKEN AT A BAR WOULD CREATE A SENSE OF COMMUNITY? WHO SAID THAT SHITTY POP BANDS GET THE "SCENE" AND "SENSE OF COMMUNITY" BACK TOGETHER? WHO SAID, OR EVER THOUGHT, MAYBE OTHER THAN YOURSELF, WHOEVER YOU MAY BE, THAT ANYONE THOUGHT THAT A CAN OF SPARKS WOULD FORM COMMUNITY? IT SEEMS, ANONYMOUS, THAT YOU ARE BEING DEFENSIVE FOR NO REASON, ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WAS NEVER SAID. I'M REALLY TRYING TO SEE THE BASIS OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, TRYING TO SEE WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM, BUT 99.9% OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS COMPLETELY UNFOUNDED AND NONSENSICAL. SORRY!

jaxscene on January 5, 2009 at 11:44 AM said...

@ everyone. anymore anonymous post will be deleted.

@ the last anonymous post. i think jaxscene is a good community builder. if not we try, that is our goal.

KudosforLiam. said...

So let't all be immature and say that Liam the one who shoots photo's for The Pearl, is the one who called the Fire Marsh. Let's also add in that Liam might put his logo on photo's he personally shoots FOR The Pearl(thought maybe if worded diffrently it could sink in)So you let about 800 people into a club that fits max 150. Damn right the fire marsh. should be called! We are said to have right of speech however all I see is the right to slander. This isn't a start of drama? Maybe its just a childish assumption. But I seem to notice that someone too a joke quite a bit too far.
Maybe the blog author should put on his "big boy panties and grow up"


Damn I give props to Liam, make a funny joke man. To be honest the quote you took from him made me almost cry laughing.


kudos Liam you Jax.scene Celeb.
(:

jaxscene on January 6, 2009 at 1:12 PM said...

@ kudusforliam. no one said liam called the fire marshall. Liam Just like me shoots photos for ourselves, not for the pearl. he watermarks the photos himself. they pearl does let liam in free for this, they are thankful. the pearl's capacity is no longer 150 it's 270. as far as a slander and starting drama who are you taking about? me are liam. i think what a lot of things people don't see is these phone calls, this myspace messaging it sounds funny, might be funny but your so close to ruining at least 20 peoples lives, grown up people with families and kids. i don't think it's funny. how do you make it stop without saying anything?

KudosforLiam said...

"they pearl does let liam in free for this, they are thankful. the pearl's capacity is no longer 150 it's 270. as far as a slander and starting drama who are you taking about? me are liam."

Typo or drunk which one you choose, correct the capacity is
270 still letting in 800 people is more than twice allowed.Let The Pearl be thankful that laim brings them money, as you do too I'm sure.
As to starting slanderous blogs on the internet, I'm afraid that you would be the one to put to blame, for stating this blog, you aren't doing Liam any service by it nor yourself. Aside from making yourself look more like a jackass.

That was honest, but rude so forgive me.
Make what stop? What the hell was started? Aside from the fact the someone enjoys the sunbears and stated the fact the the fire mashall being called.

So what is the point of this blog?
You stated a problem- which you feel is Liam, feed the fire, by slader, and the ending result? nothing you have now made it around the block for nothing...nothing was made better, nothing was changed, and it made clear the pointless-ness of jax.scene for specific blogs.

jaxscene on January 6, 2009 at 8:23 PM said...

i don't feel like a jackass. what is the point of this blog? i feel like it's pretty obvious. jaxscene has covered a lot of good benefit shows and has spread awareness. just with that, if one kid got a extra meal cause of jaxscene i'm happy. a lot of people says nobody support each other. i can say jaxscene supports. we don't get paid one cent for this.
i know it has not been pointless even if you feel it has, jaxscene has only been up for almost a year. i can tell you this, i don't care what you think. i'm going to do everything i can to make this city better, even if to some it's pointless.

Back the f up see more homie
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